Joined: 01/22/2009 . When this paint is applied by a professional the paint is actually baked onto the car. My car was painted in the early 80's. So from what i've heard i need to apply an acrylic clear coat … Such as sand the enamel paint or would I spray paint over it after I clean it with a cloth and everything? Just simple pinwashes. Turns out that they mixed the quart of ivory in Acrylic Enamel instead of Basecoat. This is called base coat/clear coat, or bc/cc. Enamel paints take longer to dry because the dryers are alkyd oil based, rather than acrylic. acrylic is an acrylic enamel. I didn't have the luxury of waiting 24-48 hours for base to dry and to scuff and shoot the Spraymax 2k clear so after an hour of basecoat drying slightly to the touch I shot one light coat of clear and then two medium coats for a nice glossy finish. I’ve painted a couple with enamel and clear over that, worked great and still looked good several years later. Should be the same thing. Worked great, sprayed the clear about 1 week after the color. The two part mixing in the can works well - easy and convenient for small jobs. There are two versions of enamel paint; one that requires a clear topcoat called a two stage system and one that does not, a single stage system. If I cant clear over oil base enamel such as these paints, do automotive paints work to swirl? You can generally paint acrylics over (well cured) enamels without any issues at all. Clear-coating over decals might work excellent for rim caps! And would I need to do anything special before applying the clear coat? 7 posts / 0 new . Older cars were painted in just a colored paint. "Though sometimes on a two-tone car, I'll use a base/clear because a single-stage will have an edge that the wax will catch on," Gary said. I read a day or two would be good? Lacquer Model Paints Over Acrylics And Enamels. The paint job will look great. Its a single stage paint with some metallic in it. The film thickness of an acrylic enamel paint is much thicker than the paint film thickness of enamel, or lacquer-based coatings. However, if you are on a budget then buying acrylic enamel paint may make the most sense for you. Starfire Acrylic Enamel Clear Coat offers fast dry times, high distinctness of image and a chemical and solvent-resistant paint film that resists chipping, cracking and fading. When making the choice to use acrylic paint, you don’t have to worry about having to prep the paint, such as mixing in hardeners, as is necessary with urethane paint. Why bother, just spray a good 2K urethane reduced and catalyzed over the enamel, then spray Nason 422-23 over the urethane and basecoat with Omni AU and cover the basecoat with Omni clear MC-161 a medium high build with 3 even coats and wetsand afterwards with 1500 grit. no problem, use hardener in the clear and go over the stripes. Home » Forum » General Discussion. You are here. For best results enamel paint should be allowed to dry for three to seven days before applying the finish. But if you have a white painted furniture piece, you can see how yellowing would be problematic! For flat clear coats i use the Vallejo matte varnish 70.520. which is acrylic. Oil-based topcoats can have an ambering effect, which means that over time the clear coat can cause the surface of the furniture piece to yellow. Polyurethane can be used over enamel paint, which often provides a harder finish than latex-based paints. I was told it was an acrylic enamel. The nozzle is uniquely designed so that it flows smoothly and delivers a finish similar to that of a spray gun. 1) If you put lacquer over enamel, it will lift and bubble it. The same applies to removing excess wash. New paints were developed that added these finishes to a base color paint. Last post. Majic Clear Coat High Gloss “Lacquer” is a durable, high gloss finish - designed for use over fully cured, Majic Tractor, Truck & Implement Enamels - to provide a greater “depth of image” to the finish, and to better protect the enamel finish from the damaging effects of the sun (UV light). I’ve used their clear enamel over rattle can metallic silver before, ended up looking like powder coating. I did it on a OT Maverick I had. I used their wet look hardner in it. So far I`m thinking Testors, but I also have some Tremclad mixed to the colours that I like and it worked well on some test pieces. I've also used Testor's Spray clear coats over Tamiya acrylic paints with no issues. Edited by tyrodtom - Dec/07/2015 at 11:06am. Bought the paint from www.paintforcars.com, used their clear coat enamel over their acrylic enamel. Rust-Oleum® Clear Enamel Spray is a transparent protective coat for painting projects. Enamel can not only be painted directly over epoxy paint, it requires it as an undercoat. I've just used Alclad aqua gloss and love it. From majestic jets to plain tugboats, enamel is commonly used on surfaces that require a durable coat of paint. The thinners used for acrylics are "softer" and don't usually affect enamels. I need to know before I decide what paints to use. Use too much and it will frost, and it will not at all protect an enamel base coat from oil washes. Available in almost any color desired, it is a topcoat and, as such, requires a primer underneath it. The clear coat goes on nice and layers up well with no runs or orange peel. Use alone or as a topcoat on metal, wood, concrete or masonry. Tamiya acrylics are not usually affected, Gunze acrylics are. If you have a dark stained piece of furniture, this won’t be detectable and can even warm up the color of the wood slightly over time. Acrylic, or acrylic enamel paints are heavy bodied, high solid content paints. "You can apply Glosscote/Dullcote over any Testors, Model Master or Aztek acrylic, enamel or lacquer as they are specially formulated to go over them with no problems. Cost savings seem to be the major reason to choose acrylic enamel over urethane, most restorers told us. Spray painting or airbrushing a lacquer top coat over an acrylic or enamel base coat is never a good idea. Most urethanes, and acrylic enamels have a window of time you can apply more coats or clear without sanding, it varies with temperature, the reducer or hardener used, once you go beyond that time period you have to sand or the clear won't stick. Mon, 2010-08-30 07:05 #1. chrismeyers. Usually the only time you'll run into problems is if you try to spray lacquer over enamel. A monster show truck and you have a big budget and need things done quickly, then decals would be faster than any solution. Looks like glass. Our automotive paint and supplies store has been in the industry for 25 years. I am using Acrylic Enamel with Urethane Hardner (Black) for base coat. So yeah, there is definitely a need for a good clear flat coat out there. The newest acrylic paints are acrylic urethane paints. Starfire can be used with any single stage Acrylic enamel automotive paint. Failure to allow proper drying time can lead to the paint chipping or peeling, and may reduce the effectiveness of the topcoat. Hey folks, I am looking at spray painting a design onto a board that has been done in epoxy. If you directly apply the paint over a clear coat, it simply will not stick, and you might find an imperfect or splotchy paint job, which would ultimately be more expensive to correct. Hey guys looking for some advice. Discussion Starter • #1 • Feb 22, 2013. The guy I got the car from said it was a GM color used on early 70's vettes. In reverse, some acrylics may be reactive to enamel thinners. Stripes are 3M Scotchcal. Members Profile. This time, I'm doing a pretty detailed paint job over the shells and would like to put a protective clear coat over it. I used the MAX 2K clear coat over base color on my 2001 RAV4 front bumper. Free shipping on all orders from continental USA I`m just wondering how you guys clear over enamel after doing a swirl? If you are using another brand of paint, please test before applying Glosscote or Dullcote to be sure there is no reaction. " Acrylic enamel paints last a lot longer, as they form a hard shell when they dry. It is very easy to coat enamel paints with acrylic paints but you really should pay attention to a couple of points if you want it to be successful. The best type of paint to be used over a clear coat would be a glossy or semi-gloss latex acrylic paint, which can be wiped clean easily, are stain and dust resistant, and have a fade-resistant color range. So any impervious clear coat may cause later bubbling as the solvents continue to be released. 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